> Let me repeat your point just to make sure I am understanding it correctly: "The US should have known that meddling in Ukraine would start a war. Therefore, they shouldn't have meddled in Ukraine."
No. I am saying that I believe US/NATO by proxy intentionally provoked war with Russia.
No should haves or shouldn't haves on either side. Not interested in subjective moral debates.
You know what? I think it is reasonable to believe that. I think it is reasonable to believe the expansion of NATO "provoked" war with Russia. That article is from 2022 but Putin was saying this all the way back in 2014: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/20603
> On the contrary, they have lied to us many times, made decisions behind our backs, placed us before an accomplished fact. This happened with NATO’s expansion to the East, as well as the deployment of military infrastructure at our borders. They kept telling us the same thing: “Well, this does not concern you.” That’s easy to say.
So I can believe that Putin thought he needed to invade Ukraine due to NATO's expansionism. I do not understand how he could be so stupid :(.
Interesting link. He is very convincing and persuasive in his speeches. Whatever you may believe about Putin, he is certainly not stupid. Not even his worst enemies would honestly think he is stupid. He has an extremely sharp mind and is a cunning adversary, and so is his opposition in the west.
"Russia found itself in a position it could not retreat from. If you compress the spring all the way to its limit, it will snap back hard. You must always remember this."
>"Russia found itself in a position it could not retreat from. If you compress the spring all the way to its limit, it will snap back hard. You must always remember this."
And explain why Ukraine a country that was their "brothers" felt attracted by EU and Western values? I hope the explanation does not involve Satan or CIA mind control.
No. I am saying that I believe US/NATO by proxy intentionally provoked war with Russia.
No should haves or shouldn't haves on either side. Not interested in subjective moral debates.
There was much provocation against Russia post 2014. You can go back and read the Russian propaganda and compare it to the US propaganda and maybe find some truth between the lines https://www.rt.com/russia/551314-putin-explains-ukraine-tact...